Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

05/12/2007 09:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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*+ HJR 25 SUPPORTING RIGHT TO FORM LABOR UNIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 252 LEAVE FOR ORGAN/BONE MARROW DONATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 252(STA) Out of Committee
+ SB 171 JUDICIAL RETENTION CANDIDACY WITHDRAWAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HJR 25-SUPPORTING RIGHT TO FORM LABOR UNIONS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that the  last order of business  was HOUSE                                                               
JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 25,  Urging the  United States  Congress to                                                               
support the freedom to choose unions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN commented on the  controversial nature of the bill and                                                               
the number of people signed up to testify.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN HARRIS,  Alaska State Legislature, introduced                                                               
HJR 25  as sponsor.   He said he  is bringing forth  the proposed                                                               
resolution   on   behalf  of   the   labor   unions  of   Alaska.                                                               
Representative Harris  relayed that he  has been a member  of the                                                               
International Brotherhood  of Teamsters  for over  30 years.   He                                                               
said America's  middle class  is shrinking  rapidly; there  is an                                                               
increasing chasm  between the  "haves" and the  "have nots."   He                                                               
said that  fact concerns  him, and  HJR 25  would give  people an                                                               
opportunity to  bridge that gap  by more easily  becoming members                                                               
of unions and, thus, experiencing better working conditions and                                                                 
receiving better pensions.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:38:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Recording begins again here.]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHARISSE MILLETT,  Staff to  Representative John  Harris, offered                                                               
an overview of  HJR 25 on behalf of  Representative Harris, prime                                                               
sponsor.   She said HJR 25  supports HR 800, which  has currently                                                               
passed the U.S. Congress and will  be heard in the U.S. Senate in                                                               
July.   She  paraphrased from  a page  [in the  committee packet]                                                               
from the sponsor as follows:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Working families  in Alaska and throughout  America are                                                                    
     struggling to make  ends meet, and our  middle class is                                                                    
     disappearing.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The National Labor Relations Act  (NLRA) of 1935 sought                                                                    
     to allow  people the freedom  to join together  for the                                                                    
     purpose of  [collectively] bargaining  with [employers]                                                                    
     for mutual aid and protections.   The system worked ...                                                                    
     [well]  for   awhile,  but   now  the   national  labor                                                                    
     relations   machinery   allows    [employers]   to   be                                                                    
     militantly, [aggressively] hostile  to the decisions of                                                                    
     their  employees,  even  though  three-fourths  of  all                                                                    
     Americans  think  employers  should be  neutral.    The                                                                    
     system is broken.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Today,  we   have  a  system  where   [chief  executive                                                                    
     officers]  (CEOs) demand  contracts for  themselves but                                                                    
     fight to keep  workers from having a voice  on the job.                                                                    
     As a result, working people  are losing ground - losing                                                                    
     health  care coverage,  retirement security,  and jobs.                                                                    
     A union voice can change that.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  Employee Free  Choice Act  (EFCA) keeps  the basic                                                                    
     system, but  gives the workers  choice.  They  can have                                                                    
     an election  or, if they  prefer, they  can demonstrate                                                                    
     their [preference]  for union representation by  a show                                                                    
     of authorization  cards - it's called  "the card check"                                                                    
     -  [which] then  [become] the  basis for  the [National                                                                    
     Labor Relations Board]  (NLRB) certification.  Further,                                                                    
     EFCA imposes stiffer penalties  on employers who coerce                                                                    
     or intimidate their employees.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Passage of this  act will go a long way  to restore the                                                                    
     original intent  of the  National Labor  Relations Act,                                                                    
     and  will help  uplift the  middle class  in our  state                                                                    
     [and] throughout the country.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLETT noted that there  is currently a companion bill being                                                               
introduced by the Senate.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:40:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN said  some people  have a  knee-jerk reaction  to the                                                               
word "union."   He  recognized the need  for both  management and                                                               
unions, but said  there appears to be a great  divide between the                                                               
two.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:41:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL offered her  understanding that a store which                                                               
would soon be opening in Juneau is not "open to unions."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLETT,  in response to questions  from Representative Doll,                                                               
said she  thinks HJR 25 will  have an impact on  "civil penalties                                                               
or   penalties  against   companies   that   don't  allow   union                                                               
organization."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:42:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLETT,  in  response  to   a  question  from  Chair  Lynn,                                                               
confirmed  that  HJR 25  is  based  on  a model  resolution  used                                                               
throughout the country and has been modified for Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:43:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  said he strongly  supports HJR 25.   He                                                               
offered  his understanding  that there  is a  similar bill  being                                                               
offered by U.S. Senator Edward Kennedy.   He noted that a copy of                                                               
the proposed  resolution would  be sent to  the prime  sponsor in                                                               
the  U.S. House  of  Representatives, and  he recommended  adding                                                               
Senator Kennedy's name.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN said he does not  want to be too specific regarding to                                                               
whom the legislation is sent.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLETT indicated  that HJR 25 supports  the legislation that                                                               
has been brought forth by Senator Edward Kennedy.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:44:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VINCE  BELTRAMI,  President,  American Federation  of  Labor  and                                                               
Congress of Industrial  Organizations (AFL-CIO), testified during                                                               
the hearing  on HJR  25.   He indicated that  whether or  not one                                                               
supports the  proposed resolution  boils down  to whether  or not                                                               
he/she  supports  the  rights  of employees  to  organize  as  is                                                               
guaranteed under  the National  Labor Relations  Act, legislation                                                               
which he  said was passed  to overcome  oppression in the  not so                                                               
distant   past.     He  related   historical  examples   of  that                                                               
oppression.   He said  "union density" has  slipped from  over 35                                                               
percent  in  the  1940s  to   its  present  level  of  8  percent                                                               
nationwide, and he  stated that it is well known  that a thriving                                                               
middle class would prop up the  nation's economy.  He opined that                                                               
the proposed legislation is "the first  step to try to shift back                                                               
to what it  was the National Labor Relations Act  set out to do."                                                               
He said  he would submit his  written testimony along with  a DVD                                                               
related to the issue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:49:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELINDA TAYLOR,  Executive Board Member, Anchorage  Central Labor                                                               
Council,  testified in  support of  HJR  25.   She explained  her                                                               
support of the proposed resolution  is based on economic reasons,                                                               
specifically, the decline  of the middle class.  She  said she is                                                               
not  opposed  to  big  business and  people  making  millions  of                                                               
dollars,  she just  wants "the  little guy  to be  able to  buy a                                                               
house,  start a  family, and  fully participate  in the  American                                                               
dream."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:50:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN noted  that the  following  people had  signed up  to                                                               
testify on behalf of the Local  942 labor union:  Michael Lockery                                                               
(ph), Candis Shannon  (ph), Carl S. Weed (ph),  Bret Horner (ph),                                                               
Tim  Sharp, and  Sean Rice  (ph).   In the  interest of  time, he                                                               
asked   that  this   group  choose   one  person   to  be   their                                                               
spokesperson,  and that  that spokesperson  be  ready to  testify                                                               
after the next witness.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:50:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAY QUAKENBUSH,  Fairbanks Building Trades, testified  in support                                                               
of  HJR  25.    He  relayed that  he  has  represented  many  new                                                               
employers  and employees  under  contract.   However, there  have                                                               
been numerous  lost opportunities to organize  new workers, often                                                               
times because of  direct coercion of employers -  even if subtle.                                                               
He offered an example.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:54:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  SHARP,  Business  Manager,   Local  942;  Business  Manager,                                                               
District Council  of Laborers,  testified in  support of  HJR 25.                                                               
He said  he has worked  as a labor  organizer for over  ten years                                                               
and has  seen firsthand  some of the  abuses taking  place within                                                               
unscrupulous  companies.    He  described  HJR  25  as  the  most                                                               
progressive  resolution to  come  out  of the  House  in over  20                                                               
years.   He indicated that  the gap  between the upper  and lower                                                               
classes is directly proportional to a lack of unionization.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:56:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DON ETHERIDGE  testified on behalf  of the AFL-CIO in  support of                                                               
HJR 25.   He said he realizes  there are good and  bad players on                                                               
"both sides  of the aisle."   He  urged the committee  to support                                                               
the resolution as a means of improving past situations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN stated his strong support  of the U.S. and Alaska, and                                                               
encouraged a good relationship between labor and management.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:57:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG moved to report  HJR 25 out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:57:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES objected to offer  final comment.  He stated                                                               
that it  does not help in  gaining support of any  legislation to                                                               
classify a person as  bad or good based on how  he/she votes.  He                                                               
said  people  should vote  their  conscience.   He  related  that                                                               
although he  appreciates the enthusiasm and  intensity with which                                                               
people have  testified, he warns against  "inflaming other people                                                               
as we go forward with this."   He summarized that he supports the                                                               
concepts of the resolution, but not its "glowing generalities."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:58:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN concurred with Representative Roses.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:58:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL stated his support  of HJR 25, but said he                                                               
does  not support  testimony that  brings back  old history.   He                                                               
stated, "For every  bad thing that has been done  to a union, you                                                               
could say that  bad things have happened to  companies, as well."                                                               
He explained,  "You just [have]  to be careful about  taking that                                                               
vitriolic  language  and pushing  it  out  in a  resolution  when                                                               
you're asking support for a particular bill in Congress."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN said  he would like to see these  issues moved forward                                                               
in an atmosphere of cooperation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:59:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  removed his  objection.    There being  no                                                               
further objection,  HJR 25  was reported out  of the  House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     

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